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Skipper
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎05-29-2017

2011 200 hp etec(twins)

Hi guys
Its been a long long road try to get the starboard engine running properly and thousands of dollars retesting gas/travel/trips cancelled!
One of the issues is this:


Key the engines on.
Start each motor.
Each motor settles into 500 rpm at idle!
Engage starboard engine forward--ENGINE STAYS AT 500 RPM??
..at this point, shutting off starboard and restarting engine does not clear the problem!
I must shut off engine(which means both engines are off)-restart with key(reboot) and.now starboard will engage and boat will.move fowward.

..local tech cannot figure this out as well as a top tech in canada (had him on the.boat)
...this doesnt happen all the time but intermittent.
...at wits end!..suggestions please??

Larry

Ps port engine is awesome!
Admiral
Posts: 5,885
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

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I am assuming that you mean the motor will not increase rpm when you advance the throttle lever. If that is the case then either the control box or throttle linkage is not allowing the the throttle-plates and throttle position sensor to rotate or the TPS is not responding to the throttle movement.

 

There could also be an intermittent connection somewhere in the TPS wiring and connectors. Not only that but the TPS link to the throttle plates may be suspect.

 

With the diagnostic software and a laptop, a technician can monitor the TPS voltage as the throttle is advanced and also test if there is a "dead spot" in the TPS.

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"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                                                 -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald


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The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. If you elect to do it yourself, be sure to use caution, common sense, and to observe all safety procedures in the vicinity of gasoline, moving engine parts, high temperature components, heavy items, and electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.
Skipper
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎05-29-2017

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

Thank you for your response!...i will run that by the tech today to make sure this has been done!..up to this point, both helms (binnacles/cables/hubes etc have been replaced into both engines including throttle linkages etc...still issues!
...so, tech swapped "brains" from motors hoping the problem would would show up in port engine but no such luck!
...we agree it.must be a bad connector somewhere in engine but where?
...talking about engine replacement at this time but will find out.more today!
..thank you so.much for your response-will report back!

Ps..just to clarify, when starboard stays at 500 rpms, and i advance the throttle is doesnt go into gear either, just stays in neutral, but rekey and all is fine (Thats when the main canadian tech figured the "brain" .was the problem)
Admiral
Posts: 5,885
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

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Do these engines have the optional digital electronic shifting and throttle systems installed or the traditional push-pull throttle and shift cables and controls?

 

You did not furnish a model number

 

Has the technician run the boat with the diagnostic software and laptop hooked up and monitored?

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"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                                                 -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald


***************
The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. If you elect to do it yourself, be sure to use caution, common sense, and to observe all safety procedures in the vicinity of gasoline, moving engine parts, high temperature components, heavy items, and electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.
Mate
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎05-30-2017

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

This system is an I CON system so we have no moving linkages, all actions are done by wire up to the shift actuator and throttle actuator. We have swapped actuator and the problem did not follow, we replace the the actuators on problem engine, still same problem. We have change all wiring from engine to binnacles, replaced the binnacles, replace ESM, replace hubs. Essentially we have done a complete re rig from front to back. Only common factor left is that engine.

 

Not only does this engine not want to go sometimes, it also sometimes does not want to idle down to 500 rpm but stays at 900 and not go out of gear.

Admiral
Posts: 5,885
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

 

 

The high rpm idle problem is likely a linkage problem or something sticking or binding. Ask your dealer to check the TPS operation and resistance and to see if service bulletin 2014-02(S) applies to your motor.

 

Also for the shifting they may want to refer to bulletin 2012-04(S)

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"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                                                 -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald


***************
The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. If you elect to do it yourself, be sure to use caution, common sense, and to observe all safety procedures in the vicinity of gasoline, moving engine parts, high temperature components, heavy items, and electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.
Skipper
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎05-29-2017

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

Hi bluewater.

...this has gone far enough with the techs!...the issue is before the VP of etec!...even the dealer is fed up with brp!

...negative BRP social media awarness campaign set to fly depending on VPs response regarding safelty issues and.putting customers at risk!

Skipper
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎05-29-2017

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

Thank you BRP.

..this went from the legal dept to the hands of the customer service dept so we can resolve this issue once and for all!
Skipper
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎05-29-2017

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

Waiting for a call from keith moody to discuss our ongoing issues!...feeling hopeful at this time!!
Larry
Skipper
Posts: 6
Registered: ‎05-29-2017

Re: 2011 200 hp etec(twins)

Had a good conversation with keith moody and i'm feeling " cautiously optimistic " at this.point!

.larry