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Captain
Posts: 813
Registered: ‎08-20-2017

Re: Steering confusion DPS

The engine descriptions are a bit confusing to interpret so you may get conflicting information from some dealers. The standard rotation 3.4l G2's are described as " integrated hydraulic + DPS".
It does not say " integrated hydraulic or DPS".
DPS is not an add on option. The only 3.4L standard rotation available without DPS is the E225LHO.
Most of the "C", counter rotating engine are integrated hydraulic only to enable the use of a "liquid tie bar".
In most twin engine installations the integrated hydraulic is bypassed and the engines are connected with a mechanical tie bar.
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Admiral
Posts: 8,856
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: Steering confusion DPS

Rick,

 

You explained that in simpler terms than I did, thanks.  

 

 

 

 

 


"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                    -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald 


 



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The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. Should you elect to perform repairs yourself, use caution, common sense, and observe safety procedures in the vicinity of flammable liquids, around moving parts, near high-temperature components, and working with electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation, or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.


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Captain
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎08-13-2017

Re: Steering confusion DPS

"All the 3.4L Evinrude E-TEC G2 regular outboards for single engine rigging come with built in hydraulic steering. DPS is the "digital power-assisted steering" option consisting of the pump, valve body, and electronic controller. Both types of engines use the regular popular hydraulic steering helms and hoses."

 

Bill's answer makes the most sense so far. Just to keep it on track, we are talking single engine application, 20" mid, HO models. 

 

"DPS is not an add on option. The only 3.4L standard rotation available without DPS is the E225LHO."

 

Rick, unfortunately, according to the Evinrude spec sheet and several dealers, you can order a non DPS, in all the HO models. DPS is an add on option. 

 

From another dealer, I was told this "The only way you can get ONLY integrated hydraulic on a 200HO – 300hp 20’’ engine would be to buy a H250HLO. It is the ONLY model offered from the factory without DPS in 20’’. 

 

So according to Bill, and another dealer, All 20" HO models are available without DPS. That is what the spec sheet says as well. And that would make sense. 

 

But, just to demonstrate how bad the communication is from Evinrude, we have 3 different answers on this thread. One saying just the 225LHO, another saying just the H250HLO, and others saying all are available without it, which aligns with the spec sheet. 

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Captain
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎08-13-2017

Re: Steering confusion DPS

The spec sheet, shows 20" models, non DPS for the E200LHO, E225LHO, same for the 250 HO. I'll try and add the images, but not sure if it will work. 

 

 

 

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Admiral
Posts: 8,856
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: Steering confusion DPS

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There are a lot of different models available and it is difficult to list each and every exception or option. The website does not always keep daily tabs on what is available. Your dealer would have the latest information at his fingertips through the Evinrude sales support for dealers.

 

What exact model are you interested in and with what features? 

We can then give you an accurate answer for that one.

 

 

 


"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                    -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald 


 



***************

The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. Should you elect to perform repairs yourself, use caution, common sense, and observe safety procedures in the vicinity of flammable liquids, around moving parts, near high-temperature components, and working with electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation, or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.


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Captain
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎08-13-2017

Re: Steering confusion DPS

Thanks Bill, the issue came up when I went to compare prices between a 225 HO and a 250 HO, 20" engine. I am very familiar with the model lineup, and have seen them all at numerous boat shows etc. But, the confusion came about when 2 different dealers said 2 different things about DPS. The confusion was clearly demonstrated here. 

 

The issues are dealer product knowledge, murky communication from Evinrude marketing material and lack of model differentiation. 

 

I really love some of the features, and am excited to see the G2 on our latest project boat. 

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Admiral
Posts: 8,856
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: Steering confusion DPS

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Every authorized dealer has avaiability to every unique model number of Evinrude outboard listed in the prrice sheet and if it is in factory stock or when available. The listing includes steering type, gearcase, trim. base color, shaft length, etc. The info is updated daily online for the dealers. 


The website and brochures are not always updated with that frequency.

 

 

 


"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                    -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald 


 



***************

The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. Should you elect to perform repairs yourself, use caution, common sense, and observe safety procedures in the vicinity of flammable liquids, around moving parts, near high-temperature components, and working with electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation, or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.


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Captain
Posts: 813
Registered: ‎08-20-2017

Re: Steering confusion DPS

Wavetowave,as a tech at a dealer I often get involved in engine sales and try to stay up to date to ensure the customer gets the engine, control, and gauge package that they want. Some of what could seem like conflicting answers could be due to the question asked. Evinrude is in the process of updating evinrude.com. The spec sheets you showed are from around 2016. The E200LHO and E225LHO have both been discontinued. Evinrude has recently improved model designations. The beginning letter E is now G1 engines with H now indicating a 3.4L G2. So if your looking for single engine, L, 20", H, HO, and O, integrated hydraulic with no DPS, the the only current engine available would be the H250LHO.
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Captain
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Registered: ‎08-13-2017

Re: Steering confusion DPS

Thanks @Rickmacd53, you're right. I ended up talking to the dealer that knew. The other dealer just wasn't informed.