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Mate
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Registered: ‎05-24-2015

Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

Yesterday I added a garmin to the nmea 2000 system and now one motor will not start. the neutral light flashes quickly....I removed the garmin and put it back like it was  but it still will not start.   Is there a way to reset the ICON system or do I take it to the shop!!!!!:

Skipper
Posts: 18
Registered: ‎03-12-2015

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

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Sounds almost like the EMM kicked back to both motors being port or "0" motors. There is a way to program the motors manually if that is the issue. Contact your dealer to be safe though. The manual process did not work for us and I had to use the laptop to get it done.

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Mate
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎05-24-2015

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

Thanks Saltydaze

Skipper
Posts: 18
Registered: ‎03-12-2015

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

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Just a word of warning, don't piggy back anything into your Evinrude system unless you have a power isolator. http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-101158000-NMEA-Power-Isolator/dp/B00ABI6BF4

  This will allow the data to transfer thru but not any voltage from the device. Read this detailed write up and it should help guide you. 

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/ETEC_RiggingAdvanced.html

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Twin 250 H.O. G2's
2010 23t Cape Horn (26'8' LOA)
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Mate
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Registered: ‎05-24-2015

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

Saltydaze thanks for your input   Ill just let the dealer deal with it

Admiral
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Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

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Was everything working as it should be before the Garmin install ?

 

 

Let us know what the dealer found and repaired or if the control problem was a coincidence with the timing of the Garmin being hooked up.

 

I am interested in the outcome as to my knowledge it would be impossible for the Garmin to reprogram an Evinrude EMM to change the engine numbering from 1 to 0  (instance setting) and unless there was some abnormal electrical intereaction, it should not have affected the ICON digital controls in any way. They are on their own network separate from the gauges and displays.

 

There are 2 places to set the engine number (instance) on an Evinrude with digital controls and a with NMEA2000 network. One is programmed by the dealer through the EMM for the network to know that there is more than one motor and to tell them apart. The other instance setting is inside the shift and throttle actuators and it is a jumper pin that tells the control lever to activate the correct engine.

 

 

 


"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                    -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald 


 



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The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. Should you elect to perform repairs yourself, use caution, common sense, and observe safety procedures in the vicinity of flammable liquids, around moving parts, near high-temperature components, and working with electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation, or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.


Skipper
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Registered: ‎03-12-2015

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

Hey Bill can you send me or post the jumper information? I used the manual way to set the engines that was in the paper work and it wouldn't take. It went something like unplug both engines from the NEMA 2000 network with the power off. Then cycle the power, after that connect the port motor and cycle power on the off again. Next plug up the starboard and power cycle the system again and it will tag the port as "0" and starboard as "1". I might have listed it wrong above, it has been several weeks since I did the install, but I followed the directions 5 or so times and it never took. The neutral light kept blinking and then when I used the laptop and I saw it had listed both engines as "0" EMM's. We are over 1 hour from our sponsored marina and it would be nice to be able to program them if they ever lose their memory. 

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Twin 250 H.O. G2's
2010 23t Cape Horn (26'8' LOA)
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Admiral
Posts: 8,428
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

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It is highly recommended that you have your authorized dealer inspect and correct if needed, your engine rigging and the installation of the ICON controls.

 

You can download the engine rigging and pre-delivery booklet and the ICON controls installation booklet from http://www.operatorsguides.brp.com/

 

From the ICON Installation Manual:

 

Engine Identity Numbers

Engine identity numbers are assigned to the

Electronic Servo Module (ESM) and Engine

Management Module (EMM) of each outboard.

Engine identity numbers allow the

ICON network to correctly control the outboards.

Each outboard is identified by an engine identity

plug installed in its ESM.

The first time the ICON system is turned ON,

it automatically checks engine identity numbers.

During this time, the controls will not respond

to operator inputs. Allow approximately

3 seconds per engine for this check to complete.

If duplicate engine identity numbers are detected,

the affected outboard’s NEUTRAL indicator

LED will flash rapidly.

 

If the outboard is a single engine or the port

engine in a multi-engine application, no changes

are required.

For all other outboards, engine identity must be

set by replacing the original plug (0) with the plug

that corresponds to the outboard’s position on the

transom. 

 

The system will enable one of the duplicates

and disable the remaining duplicates. Outboards

with a disabled ESM will not operate.

 

Check the engine identity plug number and be

sure the proper engine identity plug is installed.

 

Engine identity is set by an Engine Identity Plug

installed in the ESM. Outboards are identified as

Instance 0 through 4, from port to starboard, up to

five engines. Each identity plug is stamped with its

instance number.

 

 

 

 

 

 


"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                    -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald 


 



***************

The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. Should you elect to perform repairs yourself, use caution, common sense, and observe safety procedures in the vicinity of flammable liquids, around moving parts, near high-temperature components, and working with electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation, or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.


Skipper
Posts: 18
Registered: ‎03-12-2015

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

I did the rigging and opened the boxes and never saw one of those plugs, man I wish I would have had them and would love to keep it handy.  

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Twin 250 H.O. G2's
2010 23t Cape Horn (26'8' LOA)
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Admiral
Posts: 8,428
Registered: ‎07-14-2011

Re: Twin 200 H.O.s w/4hr

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 saltydaze wrote:

I did the rigging and opened the boxes and never saw one of those plugs, man I wish I would have had them and would love to keep it handy.  

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If your motors came equipped with the digital controls, the ESM modules with the identity plugs were already installed on the engines.  If you installed the digital control kit on to the motors, you would have seen them. Port motor identity  is " 0 "  and the stb. is " 1 "

 

 

 

Engine Identity Plugs

Engine 1 (Instance 0)  764915

Engine 2 (instance 1)  764916

Engine 3 (Instance 2)  764917

Engine 4 (Instance 3)  764918

Engine 5 (Instance 4)  764919

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


"There is never just one thing wrong with a boat";
                    -- Travis McGee, main character in a book series by John D. McDonald 


 



***************

The factory recommends that a properly trained technician service your Johnson or Evinrude outboard motor. Should you elect to perform repairs yourself, use caution, common sense, and observe safety procedures in the vicinity of flammable liquids, around moving parts, near high-temperature components, and working with electrical or ignition systems.

The information offered here is only general in nature and should not be construed as complete factory approved procedures, techniques, or specifications. Always use the proper service manual for your motor, up-to-date service literature, the correct tools, and have an understanding of how to proceed with troubleshooting and repair methods. If you are unsure or uncomfortable with a procedure, a situation, or a technique, enlist the services of a factory trained technician.